Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Response to Questions

Question 1:
My roommate and I tend to argue about everything from politics, to bars, to money, etc. JUST EVERYTHING! I have decided that in Kaufer's levels our main conflict is at a level 4. Typically we tend to argue about things that we each do that are a product of our upbringing. I do not think that a job or a course of study is good or interesting just because the end result means it pays well. I believe in choosing to do something I love and worry about money later. However Gina has chosen a major which she consistently curses and complains about. Another example is the way she talks in general. I am quiet and soft-spoken which annoys her endlessly. She is loud and abrasive and doesn't see anything wrong with that. We tend to disagree a lot. If we could clarify maybe why we behave the way we do, and what specifically these values mean to us (money, language) we can come to an agreement. Maybe not an agreement in the sense that I think that I was wrong and she is right or vice versa, but an agreement that language and money issues are barriers for our discourse. We must find ways around our conflicting values to continue on with our discourse (and live happily in a very small apt.)

Question 2:
Savio is claiming that the University is not doing enough to promote student's political feelings and ideas. Savio says that basic civil rights are at stake and in both places are being controlled by a powerful minority who influences the university. Later it is said that a conception of a university is that it be "in the world but not of the world". The opposite is that the university can only promote two kinds of speech, one that promotes nothing but what already is, and the other, which is too radical to ever be taken seriously. The university does not permit sit-ins against discrimination and re-affirms Savio in that fact that the university is controlled and suppresses what the students actually want. This works to give another example a better idea of what Savio means but saying the university is run by bureaucrats and does not allow students to express themselves. If I were an administrator I would feel compelled to attempt an explanation, but they have already admitted to being pressured to not let students speak about important issues. Berkeley has failed its students by providing them with a life in which "all of the rules have been made up".

Question 3:
Senator Obama begins his argument by telling you who he is. He provides credibility by being a black man, with having a mixed background, and African-American wife, and by being at least somewhat privileged in going to the best schools in America. Senator Obama creates his diverse background on purpose. He gives an image of someone a little bit like us, but for most of us much more educated, and that helps some people to believe him--simply on the basis of his intelligence. I think it works. Senator Obama is explaining himself against a radical pastor that he was associated with. He gives a background, a reason, he uses cause by answering this, "Why am I here talking about this reverend and who am I?" Senator Obama uses the history of his relationship with the reverend such as how he brought him to his faith, and explaining what a good man he is, but also acknowledges that he may at times be very critical of America and does not share the same values as Senator Obama. Responding this way sets the Senator apart. It provides an extremely valuable ethos description, and also answers questions about the pastor he is associated with. If the other two authors had constructed a more whole ethos the audience would be more apt to take what they are saying as truth. When reading the audience asks itself, “Who is this, why believe them, etc.?” These are questions that make the writer or speaker seem much more of credible source if they are answered up front. Constructing an ethos is obviously extremely important to an argument.

-AJ

4 comments:

Emily said...

First of all, I just wanted to start off by saying that I think all roommates argue about everything! It must be an unwritten rule or something that you have to disagree if you live together. But I was just wondering if the example of a job could also lie at the level 5 conflict? Couldn't it be like the example that Kaufer gave in the book where he talked about the one person being more materialistic than the other? Perhaps Gina is just more materialistic than you; in which case, your argument about the value of a job may never be resolved completely. I hope, at least for your sake, that the conflict poses a stronger case at the level 4 policy conflict so that you may end up living happily in the small apartment!

Anonymous said...

Really good job with your explanations of the three questions. One thing really stood out to me though. You really did not give a full solution to the end of question two. While you do have great reasoning to end it there, I just feel as if you could have said something more, such as you do realize this is happening, but we can allow ways for voices and opinions be heard from the students, not just the administrators views being the final say in everything.

ajax said...

In response to Mitch...

I guess I had a difficult time ending the second question. However, I felt that I had no business really saying what the administrator would have done. I know that my course of action by just reading what was accused of me would have been to allow students to speak freely and support them to my best ability without infringing on other students rights. I just feel that most people are hard-headed and the administrator may not have been swayed easily by Savio. He may not be influenced at all. We don't really know.

Brett said...

I think that her ending to question 2 wasn't bad. She explains that as an administrator in that position they are tied down to a set of rules regarding what the students are supposed to be allowed to do and say.